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Attendees

Agenda

  1. Open Actions
  2. Administrivia
    1. REFEDS Meetings 2019 - update
    2. Contracts
  3. REFEDS #40 - TNC29
    1. Distinguished Engineer update
    2. Federation 2.0 scenario planning
    3. SC get together = lunch on Wednesday at TNC
  4. Update on REFEDS groups
    1. Schema board
  5. Changes to the REFEDS mailing list (Hannah)
  6. Review of the 2019 Workplan
  7. AOB
    1. Post-TNC19 meeting item: map the results from the Federation 2.0 WG so far to the REFEDS mission and the ‘multiyear’ plan


Notes:

  1. Open Actions

    1. Three open action items

      1. Logo guidelines - Nicole and Ule have a meeting scheduled to discuss

      2. Service catalog and GN4 - no update (Heather to follow up)

      3. Letter to federations not supporting SIRTFI - Nicole has drafted and will send it to the SC

  2. Administrivia

    1. REFEDS Meetings 2019 - update

      1. Discussed some of the agenda items for the upcoming meeting

      2. Tom is looking for people to participate in the Baseline Expectations topic, how other federations are thinking about, and how it might be an eduGAIN item as well

    2. Contracts

      1. REFEDS have in place two contracts to support Lucy Lynch’s work with the Fed 2.0 Workshop

      2. Both DE volunteer contracts are in place as well.

      3. Call for REFEDS co-coordinator is out. This will be a 3 year contract. The SC will review the bids.

      4. MET - Nicole put out a request to the REFEDS community for input; is slowly receiving input.

  3. REFEDS #40 - TNC19

    1. Distinguished Engineer update - see above; also, mentors are in place and engaging with the mentee

    2. Federation 2.0 scenario planning - Lucy Lynch will be the facilitator, and agenda is prepared. There will be a list of prospective dimensions from which one could create future scenarios, and during the day we’ll collect 2-3 for further development. After those 2-3 scenarios are ready, the WG will continue to review and consider how organizations will handle those possible scenarios

    3. SC get together = lunch on Wednesday at TNC

  4. Update on REFEDS groups

    1. Schema board - still forming; call tomorrow. Work items on the wiki.

    2. SPOG - Laura Paglione is spinning this up; expect to see more info on this soon. This is based on FOG and will be open to SPs that are a part of a federation

  5. Changes to the REFEDS mailing list (Hannah)

    1. In the past year and a half the traffic on the list has gotten fairly low. Possibly this is because most of the conversation is moving to the eduGAIN Slack channel? Should we make people more aware of of that venue? Yes - need to make people mindful of the different venues where conversations happen

      • Nicole Harris  will send a reminder to REFEDS that the eduGAIN slack channel exists

  6. Review of the 2019 Workplan

    1. Administration components coming along

    2. Will have an update on WGs at the meeting

    3. Standards and specs - see Schema Board update above; need to push forward on the logo item

  7. AOB

    1. Post-TNC19 meeting item: map the results from the Federation 2.0 WG so far to the REFEDS mission and the ‘multiyear’ plan

    2. Identifiers - the discussion on identifiers is actually fairly scattered across multiple lists, and no ultimate direction. Part of the problem is that the loudest voice are not the organizations that actually use the identifiers. Should we get the right people together to get “the right 1-2 logic” on how identifiers should be used?

      1. Step one: an overview and a preferred order

      2. Step two: a recommended profile for using one order (or another) for different contexts

      3. Who should be pulling this together? Schema board? Another WG? SPOG? Suggestion: Schema Board that reaches out to the other interested groups (SPOG, REFEDS, etc) for input. We want a standard recommendations, and then a new R&S that uses the recommended set of identifiers.

        • Heather Flanagan to take the SC’s thoughts on the question of identifiers back to the Schema Board

    3. Outcomes of the REFEDS wiki outage - see formal note from GEANT on the incident (Nicole forwarded to the list)

      1. Could this be ground for discussion with other SPs that were hit by this? Some interest groups have been discussing this or using it as a case study (e.g., SIRTFI). Also, maybe interesting for an unconference session at some point. Hannah, Tom, and Nicole will do some outreach to see who might be at TNC to discuss this, first informally, and then for a more formal lessons learned?

    4. Gyongyi is taking over running GEANT community programs. REFEDS is nominally part of that, but we mostly do our own thing. Nicole has suggested that Valter come talk about this in the latter half of the SC lunch meeting at TNC.