Present:

Rolf Brugger(Switserland), Ramon Pfeiffer(Germany), Esther Ruiz Ben(Spain/germany), Zacharias Törnblom (sweden), Dubravko Penezic (croatia) Marlies Rikken (Netherlands)

Agenda:

  • Get to know each other
  • Share our expectations and ideas for this group
  • Discuss the idea of writing an updated white paper (as suggested in the workgroup setup)
  • Outline the next session topics and how we collaborate (meeting/brainstorm support tools)
  • Decide on the frequency of meetings and potential subgroups (tech, functional, writers) - about four sessions per year?
  • Other business?

Notes:

  • Intro

Interest in collaborationg with the other eduID's and eduID communities.

Many national eduID that don't collaborate probably not the best, so collaborating is an interest.

Usability, user experience, privacy as interesting topic. Application to eduID.

Help GEANT make the right procurements, verification of passports for example and others.

Give and get clarity on what is eduID. Unique nr on national level.

  • Expectations and ideas for this group

before: meet rarely but overview.

idea to do more regular calls and contribute is nice. Maybe each four months? Three four times a year.

What do we want as focus for the group - international eduID? A big question. << one of the session topics.

Definition of eduID and why we need it. - different flavour in different nations << topic 'self description'

Is it 'covered' by eIDAS. Which norms should be achieved? << relation to wallets (potential topic).

Technical can come later.

What are the needs per region and adapt to that. eduID.se in pilot for the EU wallet. Likely multiple identifiers for a person (edu, sectoral, gov, etc.).

Meetings fit well into the work

  • Can we help other eduID's get started? Which MFA, source code.. ? etc. <<. potential deliverable? eduID resources and knowledge base?
  • Need for eduIDs

Need for eduID because of student mobility. Foreign students.

ESI → only relevant during mobility, not as persistent identifier.

Use of eduGAIN -

Legal question whether national identifiers can be used. National identifier not always great to rely on, too regional.


How can we be sure someone is who they say they are?

Naming translation resource: https://www.icao.int/publications/Documents/9303_p3_cons_en.pdf


Whitepaper - is it possible to do? who needs it? topic? audience?

Potential topic focus:

  • basic definition,
  • where does the need for the concept come from,
  • basic description of current eduIDs,
  • relation of eduIDs to other developments,
  • eduIDs outside of Europe,
  • touch on the interoperability question → transition across countries.

Esther could help write

Common documentation section

  • Idea; we will create a knowledge base on the eduIDs instead >> wiki on the refeds wiki


  • How can we better involve people outside of Europe?!

EU and University Alliances can be a use case for eduIDs



  • Possible Topics to be discussed in future meetings:
  • international interoperability of edu-ID
  • relation of edu-ID and EIDAS
  • relation of edu-ID and wallets / SSI
  • passwordless authentication with Passkeys
  • definition of "eduID"
  • user identification with passports or identity cards
  • user experience
  • privacy & eduID









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