Topic: R&Sv2 - January call
Time: Jan 22, 2021 07:00 AM Pacific Time (US and Canada)
Meeting ID: 878 3541 4714
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- Consensus achieved within the working group on the following items (noting that all spec changes will need to go through the full community consultation process before being finalized)
- The FAQ will be revised to offer clarity on the term "affiliation" (see Research and Scholarship FAQ) and editorial changes made to the spec to make it more clear (see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xXMvMV2_tYZBcejfVrItLlABprC7TkkTu9sRcpY22jg/edit)
- eduPersonScopedAffiliation will become a required value
- R&S will require privacy statements
- Encouraging the use of eduPersonAssurance requires further discussion with the Assurance Working group
- Notes capturing the above can be found in 2020-12-17 - Notes, 17 December 2020 R&S call and 2020-12-03 Notes 3 December 2020 R&S call
From R&S 1.3
where shared user identifier is a persistent, non-reassigned, non-targeted identifier defined to be either of the following:
From the eduPerson (202001)
NOTE: eduPersonTargetedID is DEPRECATED and will be marked as obsolete in a future version of this specification. Its equivalent definition in SAML 2.0 has been replaced by a new specification for standard Subject Identifier attributes [https://docs.oasis-open.org/security/saml-subject-id-attr/v1.0/saml-subject-id-attr-v1.0.html], one of which ("urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:attribute:pairwise-id") is a direct replacement for this identifier with a simpler syntax and safer comparison rules. Existing use of this attribute in SAML 1.1 or SAML 2.0 should be phased out in favor of the new Subject Identifier attributes."
Issues Raised on Previous Calls
One of the reasons R&S supports ePPN and ePTID is that it was targeting applications that were broken because they only allow for a single identifier to identify an individual (the “one field for everything” approach). That’s why ePPN was the chosen identifier, because it was traditionally a user-friendly identifier and so suitable for the one-size-fits-all use case, as long as you ignore reassignment. ePTID was added to address reassignment. Those applications failed miserably if they only had ePTID.
Is this still an issue? Do we still need to support the one-size-fits-all approach? If we can chose a common, opaque identifier, with an understanding that you want the additional personalization, we can do that.
- One opinion: time is right to do this, and R&S is the right place to do this first.
- Second opinion: this is a question for the SP. Are they ready for R&S to move to a more opaque identifier? There’s no incentive for an IdP to make their identifier better unless there’s a demand by the SPs.
- Based on the responses from the SPOG list, SPs do not handle identifier reassignment in any standardized manner. The level of automation in responding to this seems to depend entirely on the size of the SP and how big their IT budget is.
- Providing a migration path for changes in R&S