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Attendees

WORKING GROUP: ORCID

Goals

Discussion items

TimeItemWhoNotes
ORCID as attribute authorityMiro
  • Use case - getting information about a user, while not necessarily having to go to ORCID for that info
  • We need to allow the user to link the identities
  • Show that the iD is mapped to the appropriate identity
  • ORCID as attribute authority is desired
  • RESOURCE: Islandora (repository SW)
   
  • ORCID is being treated as an IdP
  • Difference between being in a circle of trust, and the concept of control
   

Looking at the work items on the ORCID

  1. ORCID as IdP
    1. Provide community input: subject matter expert point of view. ORCID would use this information
  2. ORCID as a service provider - federation promotion
    1. Working group provide recommendation / insight for what user should do
    2. transparency is important
  3. Working with MACE to promote the use of eduPersonORCID
    1. Output - report

Report with supporting materials

 

 

Google Hangouts group chat

me
12:10 PM
https://wiki.refeds.org/display/GROUPS/For+Discussion%3A+ORCID+as+IdP
^ link to the wiki page on the topic
chris phillips
12:14 PM
+1 for attribute authority.
chris phillips muted you.
chris phillips
12:16 PM
sometimes the 'user linking' looks -- ok, IS, a login: https://zenodo.org/login/
me
12:17 PM
Meeting notes: https://wiki.refeds.org/display/GROUPS/2016-10-20+ORCID+WG+Meeting+notes?flashId=1356103104
chris phillips
12:18 PM
interesting linkage with open-aire Miro.
that's secondary though. Zenodo is using it as a login primarily
BTW Islandora's creator works with CANARIE via Research Data Canada (RDC) (Mark Leggott) and we've been talking with them about fedSSO
FWIW, I don't want to shackle either Federated ID OR ORCID in what makes sense. --It's the 'what makes sense part' I think needs clarity
https://wiki.refeds.org/display/GROUPS/ORCID
Tom Demeranville
12:26 PM
https://wiki.refeds.org/display/GROUPS/ORCID
chris phillips
12:27 PM
beyond scope: ORCID ingesting the output and altering things (ORCIDs call of course)
what's the time horizon of the group.. interesting question?
What deliverable time should we drive for? TNC17 (May 28,2017)?
Heather Flanagan
12:36 PM
The WG can run only as long as there is community interest and action.
And the longer it takes, the more likely the community will lose focus.
chris phillips
12:37 PM
@heather -- agreed. I think shooting for a delivery date is easier and can help guide effort
Tom Demeranville
12:37 PM
I like the idea of terena as a deadline.
(not that work has to finish then!)
Heather Flanagan
12:40 PM
That's fine
No, I'm in Eugene at the moment
In an open office, though, thus the mute
You can use other tools for drafting, but keeping a copy on the wiki is good for record keeping.
Think of it this way: once a month would be only seven calls between now and TNC
assuming none were missed for holidays.
With two calls a month, maybe a EU/US call time, and an Asian friendly call time?
Tom Demeranville
12:47 PM
It would be good to get aaf involved, so this is a good idea.
Heather Flanagan
12:48 PM
I don't know that you can. I can, but I have to log in.
chris phillips
12:48 PM
8am EDT is 2pm CEST,
5am PDT
4am Australia
timezone helper: http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?pl=1&lid=12,5,2147714,5809844&h=12
Heather Flanagan
12:52 PM
I would aim more, in terms of time, to UTC 9pm, PDT 2pm, Sydney 8am.
It's at least not ungodly early or late for anyone.
one hour earlier would work, too
chris phillips
12:58 PM
I think the west coast may get shorted out on the good/bad 
Heather Flanagan
12:58 PM
I won't be on all the calls, and it won't be hideous regardless
5am, that's hideous. But split the calls, that's fair to most
/me scowls
no one should have to be up at 5am. It's BEFORE COFFEE.
Tom Demeranville
12:59 PM
chris phillips
1:01 PM
gotta run.
thanks all!
chris phillips left group chat.
Heather Flanagan
1:02 PM
thanks, will do.

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